“RFK Jr’s HHS getting caught submitting legal filings where 22 out of 29 footnotes were fabricated by AI!”
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AI for drafting: what lawyers say.
What lawyers say about AI for drafting. 1033 public voices since 2023, as of : 547 like what they use and 256 do not. Most discussed: ChatGPT (573 voices, 288 like and 160 dislike); Claude (141 voices, 94 like and 14 dislike); Harvey (59 voices, 27 like and 15 dislike). The most common complaint is accuracy (213 voices) and the most common thing they value is drafting quality (363 voices). The dated drafting report has every tool with its voices and outside tests.
Briefs, motions, letters and emails: what lawyers say about AI that writes the first draft. 1033 voices on record since 2023: 547 like what they use, 256 don’t, the rest are mixed or neutral.
Quoted voices · newest first (829)
“RFK Jr’s HHS getting caught submitting legal filings where 22 out of 29 footnotes were fabricated by AI!”
CriticizesHallucinationUnverified voice
“ChatGPT, Claude, etc., can be incredibly useful tools—but like any tool, AI has its limitations, and using it to prepare a request for legal assistance can sometimes create more problems than it solves.”
MixedAccuracyUnverified voice
“Mine is Gemini for summarizing using the Citadel prompt and Claude for drafting all kinds of documents.”
in “Legal mavens, what's your favorite AI tool for summarizing and creating documents? Mine is Gemini for summariz…”
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
“From my experience, CoCounsel can reliably analyze facts/input I provide it with general legal concepts, but lacks the capacity to narrowly analyze or apply specific case law.”
in “Opinions on CoCounsel?” · 17 voices
MixedAccuracyUnverified voice
16 more voices in this thread
- r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixedThe Westlaw-backed knowledge base is the real selling point, but drafting and Q&A features are not much better than a well-prompted Claude, so value depends on how research-heavy the practice is. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixed
“I ran a 40 lawyer pilot recently and came away impressed. Expected to hate it based on what I read, but the updated platform they rolled out in August is much better.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues
“The legal knowledge and database of citations and flags with Claude’s reasoning models can't be beat.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues
“I use CoCounsel extensively as a corporate associate. It is very good.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselValues
“I attended a demo of Westlaw's CoCounsel a few weeks ago and was thoroughly impressed.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes
“The last time I ran a prompt through cocounsel, its output was that I should consult an attorney.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed
“It can find cases that answer your question very well. But it can’t understand the significance of anything it finds, making it useless for drafting.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes
“In my opinion, it’s not enough better than a top tier ChatGPT subscription to be worth paying the price Thompson Reuters is asking.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed
“It's good - based off Claude - with LN resources (if you've paid and have access to them, of course). It's as perfectly mediocre as you'd expect.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes
“The partner I’m working with LOVES Cocounsel and I consistently struggle to make it do what I need it to do. Almost always faster to do it myself.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselNeutral
“No way to save instructions that I know of.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed
“I think it’s overpriced for what it does. But that’s based on my free trial a couple of months ago.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed
“It's pretty good for broadly picking stuff out of there but connected Claude can't see it which is a bummer.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026ClaudeValues
“I've reduced understating/overstating significantly through those.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed
“Just act like it’s a law clerk and know you’re going to have to wade thru some crap to get things professional.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed
“It's got access to resources but the actual AI of it doesn't seem any better than the other products out there.”
open
“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”
in “Harvey / Legora are awful.” · 38 voices
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
37 more voices in this thread
- r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026
HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral
“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues
“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026
ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”
open
“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”
in “Harvey / Legora are awful.” · 38 voices
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
37 more voices in this thread
- r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral
“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues
“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues
“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”
open
“If so, I demand your Bar Number because you offered negligent advice, like that and not to use Copilot, which I recently did, cross-checked by two more AIs to construct and file a complaint, so maybe I'm familiar with law, just a bit.”
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
“Yes I’ve used ChatGPT to write a brief for me, but I checked every single cite to verify (1) the case existed, and (2) it was a correct recitation of what the case said.”
in “Both sides filed fake AI citations in the same case. The judge sanctioned all four lawyers.”
NeutralDrafting qualityUnverified voice
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
in “Harvey / Legora are awful.” · 38 voices
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
37 more voices in this thread
- r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral
“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues
“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues
“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”
open
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
in “Harvey / Legora are awful.” · 38 voices
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
37 more voices in this thread
- r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral
“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues
“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues
“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”
open
“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”
in “Harvey / Legora are awful.” · 38 voices
ValuesTime savedUnverified voice
37 more voices in this thread
- r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral
“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues
“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues
“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”
open
“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”
in “Harvey / Legora are awful.” · 38 voices
MixedTrust, liabilityUnverified voice
37 more voices in this thread
- r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral
“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues
“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues
“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”
open
“Claude's raw quality beats the legal-specific tools; the setup is where people stall.”
in “For lawyers who moved from Claude or ChatGPT to legal-specific AI, what made the switch worthwhile?” · 14 voices
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
13 more voices in this thread
- r/LawFirm · Oct 15, 2026MixedGeneral models like Claude are excellent for drafting and analysis, but specialized tools earn their place on large, messy record sets through OCR, deduplication and page citations. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 13, 2026ClaudeNeutralThe author trains Claude's skills by running the same task in parallel, then giving Claude their own version so it can improve the skill. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 11, 2026NeutralBefore choosing any legal AI vendor, lawyers should get written answers on training use, data retention, add-on coverage and who can access client data. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValues
“It's literally a good folder structure and proper markdown files for routing and memory that makes AI able to continuously improve as you use it, and solve the context problem.”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValues
“Hi there, so the AI model/engine running your ai environment really doesn't matter a whole lot, but Claude Opus5.5 is the way to go at the moment (all the top models, open or closed source are pretty good at this point).”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 7, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude is able to find me necessary cases and cite them and argue with them properly.”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 7, 2026ValuesThe author switched from Claude to OpenCase for workflow features like in-line citation checking and organized matter documents, saving time from research to first draft while still reviewing everything. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeNeutralRunning Claude locally on a PC with active client files lets it access everything quickly without uploads and at little cost. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026
ClioNeutralThe author uses Outlook's AI to edit emails and Clio's Vincent for document review. (summary, not a quote)open - r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeValues
“From about opus 4.8 got claude on the level, where in middle of the case it can draft reasonable filing which needs reasonable ammount of editing.”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeNeutralThe author wrote a detailed two-page claude.md covering first-page layout and date formats to standardize Claude's drafting. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeValues
“Since we use Clio manage for the office agenda we connected MCP server to Claude desktop as extension and it works great.”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeValues
“We just moved to Claude recently and I bet it’s saving me 5 hours/week of work.”
open
“ChatGPT hallucinated entire cases to use as precedent for their argument.”
CriticizesHallucinationUnverified voice
“I had a law clerk use AI on a client letter, and it not only violated our internal confidentiality policy (we do not have any AI product in-house), the letter was dead wrong and didn't even relate to the client's situation.”
in “New attorney”
CriticizesPrivacyUnverified voice
“Hard to see how that is really worth the cost savings of just having us do it right form the start.”
in “AT&T is cutting its spending on law firms. AI is a big reason why.” · 6 voices
CriticizesAccuracyUnverified voice
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- r/biglaw · Oct 11, 2026CoCounselCriticizes
“It’s CoCounsel that is downright alarming to me with how much it hallucinates.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 10, 2026ClaudeValues
“I’ve seen the numbers and the AI tooling has paid for itself many times over vs legacy legal spend.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValuesAs in-house counsel, finds that tailoring projects in Claude has removed most need to send business-specific legal work to large outside firms, whose results were weaker. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude is better than a junior associate at all non-human interaction legal tasks now.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 9, 2026Westlaw AICriticizes
“It produces some great work product if you don't mind that how confidently wrong it is 50% of the time.”
open
“My boss used it in a conclusion for a brief, and it called the same party 2 different things and did not accurately summarize the argument.”
in “Trying to get my foot in the door at the wrong time? Is this profession going to be there next year?”
CriticizesAccuracyUnverified voice
“From about opus 4.8 got claude on the level, where in middle of the case it can draft reasonable filing which needs reasonable ammount of editing.”
in “For lawyers who moved from Claude or ChatGPT to legal-specific AI, what made the switch worthwhile?” · 14 voices
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
13 more voices in this thread
- r/LawFirm · Oct 15, 2026MixedGeneral models like Claude are excellent for drafting and analysis, but specialized tools earn their place on large, messy record sets through OCR, deduplication and page citations. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 13, 2026ClaudeNeutralThe author trains Claude's skills by running the same task in parallel, then giving Claude their own version so it can improve the skill. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 13, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude's raw quality beats the legal-specific tools; the setup is where people stall.”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 11, 2026NeutralBefore choosing any legal AI vendor, lawyers should get written answers on training use, data retention, add-on coverage and who can access client data. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValues
“It's literally a good folder structure and proper markdown files for routing and memory that makes AI able to continuously improve as you use it, and solve the context problem.”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValues
“Hi there, so the AI model/engine running your ai environment really doesn't matter a whole lot, but Claude Opus5.5 is the way to go at the moment (all the top models, open or closed source are pretty good at this point).”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 7, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude is able to find me necessary cases and cite them and argue with them properly.”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 7, 2026ValuesThe author switched from Claude to OpenCase for workflow features like in-line citation checking and organized matter documents, saving time from research to first draft while still reviewing everything. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeNeutralRunning Claude locally on a PC with active client files lets it access everything quickly without uploads and at little cost. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClioNeutralThe author uses Outlook's AI to edit emails and Clio's Vincent for document review. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeNeutralThe author wrote a detailed two-page claude.md covering first-page layout and date formats to standardize Claude's drafting. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeValues
“Since we use Clio manage for the office agenda we connected MCP server to Claude desktop as extension and it works great.”
open - r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeValues
“We just moved to Claude recently and I bet it’s saving me 5 hours/week of work.”
open
“I was working with someone who is fairly neutral on AI and was just incensed that Copilot couldn’t make a template for legal numbering.”
CriticizesAccuracyUnverified voice
“A lawyer filed a murder appeal citing witnesses who don't exist. ChatGPT invented them and he put them in the filing anyway.”
CriticizesHallucinationUnverified voice
“A lawyer used ChatGPT to generate briefs that included completely made-up witnesses and testimony while representing a man accused of shooting...”
CriticizesHallucinationUnverified voice
“It takes the client's AI-generated garbage apart in about 5 minutes and drafts a response explaining why the fringe legal theory their AI found on a random blog doesn't actually mean they have a strong claim.”
in “So freaking tired of pro per ChatGPT litigants” · 2 voices
ValuesTime savedUnverified voice
“A New Mexico lawyer admitted ChatGPT wrote his briefs—complete with invented people, facts, and citations—and he didn’t verify any of it.”
CriticizesHallucinationUnverified voice
“I use ChatGPT all the time as it's incredibly helpful.”
in “Is Chat GPT practicing law without a license?” · 6 voices
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- r/Lawyertalk · Sep 29, 2026ChatGPTValues
“Westlaw is free for pro se (i.e. via most public libraries), and ChatGPT computer/browser use can use KeyCite flawlessly.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Sep 29, 2026ChatGPTCriticizes
“I have received 3 calls asking for representation in the last 2 days bc ChatGPT told them there was a high chance of them going to prison based on what they put in.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Sep 28, 2026ChatGPTCriticizesSays ChatGPT gives wrong answers without pushback, wastes attorney time, strains client relationships and risks confidentiality breaches and discoverable material. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/Lawyertalk · Sep 28, 2026ChatGPTCriticizes
“Now it’s ChatGPT instead of Mervis’s sister’s neighbor’s cousin, and both have about the same amount of knowledge and insight.”
open - r/Lawyertalk · Sep 28, 2026ChatGPTNeutral
“I’m pretty sure legal at ChatGPT added a disclaimer that says it’s not giving legal or medical advice (content dependent).”
open
r/legaltech
“Spellbook - best $350/mo you’ll ever spend.”
in “Legal AI for a family office” · 7 voices
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- r/legaltech · Sep 29, 2026ClaudeValues
“I created a software for my girlfriend (she is a lawyer) without spending anything (apart from my 20$/month Claude subscription).”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 24, 2026Values
“Spellbook is probably the strongest fit, but not sure the price will be in the $200 range.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 23, 2026ClaudeValues
“Most legal products use the same frontier models. The key to getting the most from Claude or ChatGPT is context and prompt enginerring, which is what lawyers like me bring to the table.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 23, 2026ClaudeValues
“Vanilla Claude and ChatGPT may be good enough.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 23, 2026ClaudeValues
“The model layer tooling. Whether Claude for legal, Astra for Law etc. are really good.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 23, 2026MixedSuggests an open-source tool or Spellbook for a small budget but warns that low-quality AI output in legal work is still very risky. (summary, not a quote)open
“AI analysis and drafting were garbage for a long time until suddenly.. they were not.”
in “Is it just me or has the quality of Cocounsel and other enterprise chatbots skyrocketed in the last 3 months?” · 2 voices
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
“Vanilla Claude and ChatGPT may be good enough.”
in “Legal AI for a family office” · 7 voices
ValuesDrafting qualityUnverified voice
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- r/legaltech · Sep 29, 2026ClaudeValues
“I created a software for my girlfriend (she is a lawyer) without spending anything (apart from my 20$/month Claude subscription).”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 27, 2026Values
“Spellbook - best $350/mo you’ll ever spend.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 24, 2026Values
“Spellbook is probably the strongest fit, but not sure the price will be in the $200 range.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 23, 2026ClaudeValues
“Most legal products use the same frontier models. The key to getting the most from Claude or ChatGPT is context and prompt enginerring, which is what lawyers like me bring to the table.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 23, 2026ClaudeValues
“The model layer tooling. Whether Claude for legal, Astra for Law etc. are really good.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 23, 2026MixedSuggests an open-source tool or Spellbook for a small budget but warns that low-quality AI output in legal work is still very risky. (summary, not a quote)open
“Best bang for your buck for most lawyers is opus and you only ever use it to run adversarial critiques on things you draft.”
in “Question about Confidentiality” · 4 voices
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- r/legaltech · Sep 21, 2026ChatGPTCriticizes
“Dumping full client files into ChatGPT is where firms get burned.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 19, 2026ChatGPTCriticizes
“The issue is when the information is entrusted to a party under no obligation to keep it confidential. So the use of plain old ChatGPT is problematic.”
open - r/legaltech · Sep 19, 2026ClaudeNeutralLawyers should use AI only on commercial terms such as Teams, Enterprise or an API key, not consumer plans, including Claude Max, because of confidentiality. (summary, not a quote)open
“In the past week alone, California has disciplined over a dozen attorneys for LLM hallucinations because they used LLMs (mostly ChatGPT) to produce their legal pleadings.”
in “US Military had close call after using AI for hallucinated intelligence report”
CriticizesHallucinationUnverified voice
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