What lawyers say about AI for legal research. 1621 public voices since 2023, as of : 560 like what they use and 665 do not. Most discussed: ChatGPT (623 voices, 148 like and 359 dislike); Westlaw AI (210 voices, 88 like and 61 dislike); Lexis+ AI (184 voices, 59 like and 78 dislike). The most common complaint is accuracy (418 voices) and the most common thing they value is time saved (234 voices). The dated legal research report has every tool with its voices and outside tests.
Case law, statutes, memos: what lawyers report when they use AI to find and read the law. 1621 voices on record since 2023: 560 like what they use, 665 don’t, the rest are mixed or neutral.
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixedThe Westlaw-backed knowledge base is the real selling point, but drafting and Q&A features are not much better than a well-prompted Claude, so value depends on how research-heavy the practice is. (summary, not a quote)open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixed“I ran a 40 lawyer pilot recently and came away impressed. Expected to hate it based on what I read, but the updated platform they rolled out in August is much better.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“I use CoCounsel extensively as a corporate associate. It is very good.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselValues“I attended a demo of Westlaw's CoCounsel a few weeks ago and was thoroughly impressed.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The last time I ran a prompt through cocounsel, its output was that I should consult an attorney.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It can find cases that answer your question very well. But it can’t understand the significance of anything it finds, making it useless for drafting.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“In my opinion, it’s not enough better than a top tier ChatGPT subscription to be worth paying the price Thompson Reuters is asking.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's good - based off Claude - with LN resources (if you've paid and have access to them, of course). It's as perfectly mediocre as you'd expect.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The partner I’m working with LOVES Cocounsel and I consistently struggle to make it do what I need it to do. Almost always faster to do it myself.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselNeutral“No way to save instructions that I know of.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“From my experience, CoCounsel can reliably analyze facts/input I provide it with general legal concepts, but lacks the capacity to narrowly analyze or apply specific case law.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“I think it’s overpriced for what it does. But that’s based on my free trial a couple of months ago.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's pretty good for broadly picking stuff out of there but connected Claude can't see it which is a bummer.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026ClaudeValues“I've reduced understating/overstating significantly through those.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“Just act like it’s a law clerk and know you’re going to have to wade thru some crap to get things professional.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's got access to resources but the actual AI of it doesn't seem any better than the other products out there.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 19, 2026ValuesLegal-specific tools like Harvey and Legora suit firm-wide rollout through matter context, prebuilt workflows and client success teams, and cost less overall than building the same on Claude. (summary, not a quote)open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026ValuesAI is great for brainstorming at the start and refining at the end of a project, and lawyers should use it while still doing their own thinking. (summary, not a quote)open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixedThe Westlaw-backed knowledge base is the real selling point, but drafting and Q&A features are not much better than a well-prompted Claude, so value depends on how research-heavy the practice is. (summary, not a quote)open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixed“I ran a 40 lawyer pilot recently and came away impressed. Expected to hate it based on what I read, but the updated platform they rolled out in August is much better.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“The legal knowledge and database of citations and flags with Claude’s reasoning models can't be beat.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“I use CoCounsel extensively as a corporate associate. It is very good.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselValues“I attended a demo of Westlaw's CoCounsel a few weeks ago and was thoroughly impressed.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The last time I ran a prompt through cocounsel, its output was that I should consult an attorney.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It can find cases that answer your question very well. But it can’t understand the significance of anything it finds, making it useless for drafting.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“In my opinion, it’s not enough better than a top tier ChatGPT subscription to be worth paying the price Thompson Reuters is asking.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's good - based off Claude - with LN resources (if you've paid and have access to them, of course). It's as perfectly mediocre as you'd expect.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The partner I’m working with LOVES Cocounsel and I consistently struggle to make it do what I need it to do. Almost always faster to do it myself.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselNeutral“No way to save instructions that I know of.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“From my experience, CoCounsel can reliably analyze facts/input I provide it with general legal concepts, but lacks the capacity to narrowly analyze or apply specific case law.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“I think it’s overpriced for what it does. But that’s based on my free trial a couple of months ago.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's pretty good for broadly picking stuff out of there but connected Claude can't see it which is a bummer.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“Just act like it’s a law clerk and know you’re going to have to wade thru some crap to get things professional.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's got access to resources but the actual AI of it doesn't seem any better than the other products out there.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixedThe Westlaw-backed knowledge base is the real selling point, but drafting and Q&A features are not much better than a well-prompted Claude, so value depends on how research-heavy the practice is. (summary, not a quote)open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixed“I ran a 40 lawyer pilot recently and came away impressed. Expected to hate it based on what I read, but the updated platform they rolled out in August is much better.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“The legal knowledge and database of citations and flags with Claude’s reasoning models can't be beat.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“I use CoCounsel extensively as a corporate associate. It is very good.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselValues“I attended a demo of Westlaw's CoCounsel a few weeks ago and was thoroughly impressed.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The last time I ran a prompt through cocounsel, its output was that I should consult an attorney.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It can find cases that answer your question very well. But it can’t understand the significance of anything it finds, making it useless for drafting.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“In my opinion, it’s not enough better than a top tier ChatGPT subscription to be worth paying the price Thompson Reuters is asking.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's good - based off Claude - with LN resources (if you've paid and have access to them, of course). It's as perfectly mediocre as you'd expect.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The partner I’m working with LOVES Cocounsel and I consistently struggle to make it do what I need it to do. Almost always faster to do it myself.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselNeutral“No way to save instructions that I know of.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“From my experience, CoCounsel can reliably analyze facts/input I provide it with general legal concepts, but lacks the capacity to narrowly analyze or apply specific case law.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“I think it’s overpriced for what it does. But that’s based on my free trial a couple of months ago.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026ClaudeValues“I've reduced understating/overstating significantly through those.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“Just act like it’s a law clerk and know you’re going to have to wade thru some crap to get things professional.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's got access to resources but the actual AI of it doesn't seem any better than the other products out there.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixedThe Westlaw-backed knowledge base is the real selling point, but drafting and Q&A features are not much better than a well-prompted Claude, so value depends on how research-heavy the practice is. (summary, not a quote)open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixed“I ran a 40 lawyer pilot recently and came away impressed. Expected to hate it based on what I read, but the updated platform they rolled out in August is much better.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“The legal knowledge and database of citations and flags with Claude’s reasoning models can't be beat.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“I use CoCounsel extensively as a corporate associate. It is very good.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselValues“I attended a demo of Westlaw's CoCounsel a few weeks ago and was thoroughly impressed.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The last time I ran a prompt through cocounsel, its output was that I should consult an attorney.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It can find cases that answer your question very well. But it can’t understand the significance of anything it finds, making it useless for drafting.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“In my opinion, it’s not enough better than a top tier ChatGPT subscription to be worth paying the price Thompson Reuters is asking.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's good - based off Claude - with LN resources (if you've paid and have access to them, of course). It's as perfectly mediocre as you'd expect.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The partner I’m working with LOVES Cocounsel and I consistently struggle to make it do what I need it to do. Almost always faster to do it myself.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“From my experience, CoCounsel can reliably analyze facts/input I provide it with general legal concepts, but lacks the capacity to narrowly analyze or apply specific case law.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“I think it’s overpriced for what it does. But that’s based on my free trial a couple of months ago.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's pretty good for broadly picking stuff out of there but connected Claude can't see it which is a bummer.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026ClaudeValues“I've reduced understating/overstating significantly through those.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“Just act like it’s a law clerk and know you’re going to have to wade thru some crap to get things professional.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's got access to resources but the actual AI of it doesn't seem any better than the other products out there.”open
“It can find cases that answer your question very well. But it can’t understand the significance of anything it finds, making it useless for drafting.”
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixedThe Westlaw-backed knowledge base is the real selling point, but drafting and Q&A features are not much better than a well-prompted Claude, so value depends on how research-heavy the practice is. (summary, not a quote)open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixed“I ran a 40 lawyer pilot recently and came away impressed. Expected to hate it based on what I read, but the updated platform they rolled out in August is much better.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“The legal knowledge and database of citations and flags with Claude’s reasoning models can't be beat.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“I use CoCounsel extensively as a corporate associate. It is very good.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselValues“I attended a demo of Westlaw's CoCounsel a few weeks ago and was thoroughly impressed.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The last time I ran a prompt through cocounsel, its output was that I should consult an attorney.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“In my opinion, it’s not enough better than a top tier ChatGPT subscription to be worth paying the price Thompson Reuters is asking.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's good - based off Claude - with LN resources (if you've paid and have access to them, of course). It's as perfectly mediocre as you'd expect.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The partner I’m working with LOVES Cocounsel and I consistently struggle to make it do what I need it to do. Almost always faster to do it myself.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselNeutral“No way to save instructions that I know of.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“From my experience, CoCounsel can reliably analyze facts/input I provide it with general legal concepts, but lacks the capacity to narrowly analyze or apply specific case law.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“I think it’s overpriced for what it does. But that’s based on my free trial a couple of months ago.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's pretty good for broadly picking stuff out of there but connected Claude can't see it which is a bummer.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026ClaudeValues“I've reduced understating/overstating significantly through those.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“Just act like it’s a law clerk and know you’re going to have to wade thru some crap to get things professional.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's got access to resources but the actual AI of it doesn't seem any better than the other products out there.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixedThe Westlaw-backed knowledge base is the real selling point, but drafting and Q&A features are not much better than a well-prompted Claude, so value depends on how research-heavy the practice is. (summary, not a quote)open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselMixed“I ran a 40 lawyer pilot recently and came away impressed. Expected to hate it based on what I read, but the updated platform they rolled out in August is much better.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“The legal knowledge and database of citations and flags with Claude’s reasoning models can't be beat.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 19, 2026CoCounselValues“I use CoCounsel extensively as a corporate associate. It is very good.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The last time I ran a prompt through cocounsel, its output was that I should consult an attorney.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It can find cases that answer your question very well. But it can’t understand the significance of anything it finds, making it useless for drafting.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“In my opinion, it’s not enough better than a top tier ChatGPT subscription to be worth paying the price Thompson Reuters is asking.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's good - based off Claude - with LN resources (if you've paid and have access to them, of course). It's as perfectly mediocre as you'd expect.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“The partner I’m working with LOVES Cocounsel and I consistently struggle to make it do what I need it to do. Almost always faster to do it myself.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselNeutral“No way to save instructions that I know of.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“From my experience, CoCounsel can reliably analyze facts/input I provide it with general legal concepts, but lacks the capacity to narrowly analyze or apply specific case law.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“I think it’s overpriced for what it does. But that’s based on my free trial a couple of months ago.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's pretty good for broadly picking stuff out of there but connected Claude can't see it which is a bummer.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026ClaudeValues“I've reduced understating/overstating significantly through those.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“Just act like it’s a law clerk and know you’re going to have to wade thru some crap to get things professional.”open
r/Lawyertalk · Oct 18, 2026CoCounselMixed“It's got access to resources but the actual AI of it doesn't seem any better than the other products out there.”open
“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”
r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”open
“Imagine hiring a veteran lawyer with 30+ years of experience, only for him to submit 6 completely fabricated court cases in federal court because he trusted ChatGPT…”
“Imagine hiring a veteran lawyer with 30+ years of experience, only for him to submit 6 completely fabricated court cases in federal court because he trusted ChatGPT…”
r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 17, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey is the cryptocurrency of legal tech, it survived on belief, marketing, and FOMO when in essence it’s an LLM wrapper now with a post-trained open source model to make better margins for their insane valuation and funding rounds”open
r/legaltech · Oct 17, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Both Harvey and Legora are built on sales team, not product quality.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026LegoraCriticizes“At least where I reside, Legora cannot be trusted to do good/accurate research.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026HarveyCriticizesHarvey's benchmark standing does not match the experience in practice, and financial losses may lead it to cut corners. (summary, not a quote)open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026LegoraValues“Despite my bitching about Legora, it is still a very good tool and at present I can pass on the whole cost to my clients.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026HarveyValues“When you look at the benchmarks, none of the labs most advanced models are close to Harvey for what it does.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026ClaudeValues“It runs on our existing gpt or claude subscriptions we already pay for so it has been alot cheaper than Harvey or Legora.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 15, 2026LegoraMixed“I use Legora and the tool is both helpful, and a useless piece of shit that will get you into trouble and waste far more time than it will save.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 15, 2026ChatGPTValues“Both ChatGPT and Claude are better than Legora and Harvey.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 17, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey is the cryptocurrency of legal tech, it survived on belief, marketing, and FOMO when in essence it’s an LLM wrapper now with a post-trained open source model to make better margins for their insane valuation and funding rounds”open
r/legaltech · Oct 17, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Both Harvey and Legora are built on sales team, not product quality.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026LegoraValues“Whilst Legora has its issues, nothing good prompting cannot fix.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026HarveyCriticizesHarvey's benchmark standing does not match the experience in practice, and financial losses may lead it to cut corners. (summary, not a quote)open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026LegoraValues“Despite my bitching about Legora, it is still a very good tool and at present I can pass on the whole cost to my clients.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026HarveyValues“When you look at the benchmarks, none of the labs most advanced models are close to Harvey for what it does.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 16, 2026ClaudeValues“It runs on our existing gpt or claude subscriptions we already pay for so it has been alot cheaper than Harvey or Legora.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 15, 2026LegoraMixed“I use Legora and the tool is both helpful, and a useless piece of shit that will get you into trouble and waste far more time than it will save.”open
r/legaltech · Oct 15, 2026ChatGPTValues“Both ChatGPT and Claude are better than Legora and Harvey.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”open
“Westlaw's CoCounsel will get you in the right zip code but its descriptions of the cases it finds for me are often still incorrect and need to be verified personally.”
in “Why does my mid-sized firm continuously shove our “AI tools” down my throat?” · 4 voices
r/LawFirm · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeMixed“I've found that Haiku and Sonnet do not do as good a job and correcting errors that result from them makes me waste time.”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 13, 2026ChatGPTValues“There are some other minor details but that research workflow has proven to be exponentially better than I could ever do and still significantly better than lexis or westlaw AI were ever able to do for me.”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 13, 2026Westlaw AICriticizes“These companies move too slowly and, since they are subscription based, they have an incentive to use cheap (aka bad) AI models to save on costs.”open
“There are some other minor details but that research workflow has proven to be exponentially better than I could ever do and still significantly better than lexis or westlaw AI were ever able to do for me.”
in “Why does my mid-sized firm continuously shove our “AI tools” down my throat?” · 4 voices
r/LawFirm · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeMixed“I've found that Haiku and Sonnet do not do as good a job and correcting errors that result from them makes me waste time.”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 13, 2026CoCounselMixed“Westlaw's CoCounsel will get you in the right zip code but its descriptions of the cases it finds for me are often still incorrect and need to be verified personally.”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 13, 2026Westlaw AICriticizes“These companies move too slowly and, since they are subscription based, they have an incentive to use cheap (aka bad) AI models to save on costs.”open
“I'm still not convinced they are actually saving me time -- just too many errors, too confidently stated, and I have to re-do all the research myself.”
in “The gap in shared understanding of LLM capability is widening” · 3 voices
Hacker News · Oct 12, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude came up with a very useful answer in ~10min — they were quite impressed.”open
Hacker News · Oct 12, 2026MixedLLMs have not produced arguments more persuasive than good lawyers; accuracy matters more than speed, AI malpractice risk higher. (summary, not a quote)open
Hacker News · Oct 12, 2026MixedLLMs have not produced arguments more persuasive than good lawyers; accuracy matters more than speed, AI malpractice risk higher. (summary, not a quote)open
Hacker News · Oct 12, 2026ClaudeCriticizes“I'm still not convinced they are actually saving me time -- just too many errors, too confidently stated, and I have to re-do all the research myself.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 11, 2026CoCounselCriticizes“It’s CoCounsel that is downright alarming to me with how much it hallucinates.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 10, 2026ClaudeValues“I’ve seen the numbers and the AI tooling has paid for itself many times over vs legacy legal spend.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValuesAs in-house counsel, finds that tailoring projects in Claude has removed most need to send business-specific legal work to large outside firms, whose results were weaker. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude is better than a junior associate at all non-human interaction legal tasks now.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 9, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Hard to see how that is really worth the cost savings of just having us do it right form the start.”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 15, 2026MixedGeneral models like Claude are excellent for drafting and analysis, but specialized tools earn their place on large, messy record sets through OCR, deduplication and page citations. (summary, not a quote)open
r/LawFirm · Oct 13, 2026ClaudeNeutralThe author trains Claude's skills by running the same task in parallel, then giving Claude their own version so it can improve the skill. (summary, not a quote)open
r/LawFirm · Oct 13, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude's raw quality beats the legal-specific tools; the setup is where people stall.”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 11, 2026NeutralBefore choosing any legal AI vendor, lawyers should get written answers on training use, data retention, add-on coverage and who can access client data. (summary, not a quote)open
r/LawFirm · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValues“It's literally a good folder structure and proper markdown files for routing and memory that makes AI able to continuously improve as you use it, and solve the context problem.”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 9, 2026ClaudeValues“Hi there, so the AI model/engine running your ai environment really doesn't matter a whole lot, but Claude Opus5.5 is the way to go at the moment (all the top models, open or closed source are pretty good at this point).”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 7, 2026ValuesThe author switched from Claude to OpenCase for workflow features like in-line citation checking and organized matter documents, saving time from research to first draft while still reviewing everything. (summary, not a quote)open
r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeNeutralRunning Claude locally on a PC with active client files lets it access everything quickly without uploads and at little cost. (summary, not a quote)open
r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClioNeutralThe author uses Outlook's AI to edit emails and Clio's Vincent for document review. (summary, not a quote)open
r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeValues“From about opus 4.8 got claude on the level, where in middle of the case it can draft reasonable filing which needs reasonable ammount of editing.”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeNeutralThe author wrote a detailed two-page claude.md covering first-page layout and date formats to standardize Claude's drafting. (summary, not a quote)open
r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeValues“Since we use Clio manage for the office agenda we connected MCP server to Claude desktop as extension and it works great.”open
r/LawFirm · Oct 6, 2026ClaudeValues“We just moved to Claude recently and I bet it’s saving me 5 hours/week of work.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 2, 2026ClaudeValues“If you use Claude, running Opus 5.5 or Fable on Extra Effort, it genuinely could replace a lot of attorneys.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 2, 2026CoCounselMixed“Westlaw CoCounsel is really good when there’s a clear answer to a question.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 2, 2026HarveyMixed“Harvey and WestLaw’s AI (and parallel search) are the most useful imo but like I said that doesn’t mean they are good.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 2, 2026LegoraCriticizes“Legora is great if you want to feel really confident about something (but get it wrong anyways).”open
r/biglaw · Oct 1, 2026HarveyMixed“I say Harvey gets the first 20% of the work done.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 1, 2026Westlaw AIValues“Stuff I would give a 1-3 year associate and expect them to spend 6-8 hours on, I give to westlaw and it gives me a better work product than an associate would in 10 minutes.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 2, 2026ClaudeValues“If you use Claude, running Opus 5.5 or Fable on Extra Effort, it genuinely could replace a lot of attorneys.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 2, 2026CoCounselMixed“Westlaw CoCounsel is really good when there’s a clear answer to a question.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 2, 2026LegoraCriticizes“Legora is great if you want to feel really confident about something (but get it wrong anyways).”open
r/biglaw · Oct 2, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey should *never* be used for research.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 1, 2026HarveyMixed“I say Harvey gets the first 20% of the work done.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 1, 2026Westlaw AIValues“Stuff I would give a 1-3 year associate and expect them to spend 6-8 hours on, I give to westlaw and it gives me a better work product than an associate would in 10 minutes.”open
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