“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”
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- r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026
HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues
“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral
“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues
“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026
ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral
“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
- r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral
“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues
“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026Westlaw AIValues
“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues
“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed
“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues
“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”
open - r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes
“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”
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