A voice on r/Lawyertalk about Westlaw AI, Aug 19, 2026

r/LawyertalkAug 20, 2026

Lexis+ AI

“Protege is directly part of Lexis and still can’t be trusted.”

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r/Lawyertalk · Aug 20, 2026CriticizesAI pin cites are unreliable even when the main case cite is right, and even the legal AI vendors warn users to double-check them. (summary, not a quote)open
r/Lawyertalk · Aug 19, 2026Westlaw AICriticizes“Running a brief through Westlaw cite check is insufficient IMO. It is just another AI platform.”open

Hacker NewsApr 30, 2026

Westlaw AI

“What legal professionals actually pay for [...] is to give the AI access to a legal database of case law.”

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Hacker News · May 5, 2026ChatGPTValuesPro se litigant ran two years of federal litigation on a $20 ChatGPT plan for research, drafting and discovery, and forced a settlement. (summary, not a quote)open
Hacker News · May 2, 2026ChatGPTCriticizes“With ChatGPT and Claude, the risk is much higher, because you're basically uploading entire documents with potentially privileged material to a third party, as part of your prompt.”open
Hacker News · May 2, 2026HarveyMixed“LLMs are absolutely abysmal at legal research and analysis, and every week we are seeing reports of some lawyer being called out publicly for submitting a brief to a court with hallucinated case citations.”open
Hacker News · May 2, 2026MixedOpen-source legal AI is better and fine for general work, but insufficient for full research without near-complete case law coverage. (summary, not a quote)open
Hacker News · Apr 30, 2026CriticizesLegal professional says generic LLM wrapper is no replacement for Westlaw; cannot rely on it without recourse if wrong. (summary, not a quote)open
Hacker News · Apr 30, 2026ValuesLawyer uses AI extensively but manually reads every cited case and checks on Westlaw it is still good law. (summary, not a quote)open

r/biglawOct 15, 2026

Westlaw AI

“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”

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r/biglaw · Oct 19, 2026CriticizesLegal SaaS platforms like Harvey and Legora are just wrappers around LLMs, and the author's firm built its own in-house platform and sees their valuations as unjustified. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“Boomer here, but I think Harvey is incredible.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 18, 2026HarveyValues“When you know what you are doing and what you want, Harvey is great IMO.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026CoCounselNeutral“CoCounsel allows you to build workflows and combine with other sources too, though.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“The US caselaw search is better because you can combine it with other sources so you can have it look through a set of litigation documents and run caselaw research to help figure out their significance at the same time.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026ClaudeValues“To be very clear, in my experience having these systems finely tuned to your individual work vs the level of tuning you can get out of harvey/cocounsel/co-pilot can represent 2-3x productivity increases.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 17, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey vault is amazing for working with discovery productions.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey also has a US Caselaw database where whichever model you pick will directly search for cases in the database.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026CriticizesSays lawyers will not use raw coding or chat tools and need a wrapper around the model to make it usable. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey can be used with Astra 6 or Fable, your firm just has to agree to API pricing.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey uses the Chat GPT and Claude models and you can actually pick which model.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026ChatGPTValues“What pisses me off is that our clients ARE using Claude and ChatGPT themselves and we’re stuck using these inferior models.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“Alls I know is that I can’t keep track of all the platforms so I stick to my mans Harvey even though the other mans might be better.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 16, 2026HarveyNeutral“You do realize that Harvey was literally just an interface to access Claude since day 1.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey and Legora are inferior products, by magnitudes, and any firm that exclusively relies on these tools is falling behind in productivity and associate satisfaction.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“If you are using Fable and you give it enough project data, it can function like your associate on that case who has a mastery of facts and super fast turnaround.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey sucks because it's just an API built on top of open-source AI models, which are way behind the models currently available through openAI or Claude.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizesYounger lawyers who grew up with general AI tools would be disadvantaged by using Harvey, while older lawyers can be forgiven for adopting it. (summary, not a quote)open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“This is basically a fine tuned version of the Kimi K3 model which they claim is better but is clearly worse”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“Harvey does have its own propriety model. And yes, if you select a specific model, only the output is generated by that model, not all of the intervening tasks.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyNeutral“There is no “Harvey” model. Harvey just picks one of the models based on your prompt.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“I like to think of Harvey as an energetic junior, does their best, a fine starting point, but doesn’t produce a product I’d be willing to send a client without a deeeep review”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“Harvey's been killing it for me on the transaction side with the rote drafting and title work.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I’ve been really impressed and don’t see how a tool could be much better”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyValues“I use Harvey daily and think it’s a fantastic product (as long as you use it to supplement, not replace your work product)”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“I use co counsel for litigation and i find it is much more accurate for litigation research than claude, chatgpt, or gemini.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Even when I add docs to a vault and ask for a review table, getting Harvey to actually “read” the docs is like pulling teeth.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026ClaudeValues“Claude code with a syfert.com MCP (or a courtlistener MCP, or ding duff) is 500% better than Harvey and Legora.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyMixed“It’s usually right but the times it isn’t it’s REALLY wrong.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“I also do not think I’m getting real Opus 5 when I select it in Harvey. And it’s hella slow.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“Harvey profits by arbitrating token costs, so they use the cheapest models they think can get away with for the bulk of response.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“They came out years later than Harvey, when firms already adopted Harvey, but yeah, firms should abandon Harveyw”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026CoCounselValues“My firm has Harvey and CoCounsel, and I just use CC bc it has access to Westlaw.”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“It routinely gives me genuinely “lazy” answers that fail to address what are obviously critical aspects of the issue, in a way that is not true of Fable or Astra”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“The only reason firms choose Harvey is it doesn’t use our data to train its AI due to confidentiality, or else they are trash”open
r/biglaw · Oct 15, 2026HarveyCriticizes“All other tasks, such as the actual research, review, etc, are handled by whatever model Harvey wants, including their own shitty “proprietary” models.”open

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